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Large diferences between restricted and flexi fares
Last edited by SQtraveller; 20 August 2017, 03:45 AM.Tags: None
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Originally posted by SQtraveller View PostHi guys,
When I did a trial booking on line with SQ, I noticed in August there are some return flights from LHR to SIN for around GBP460. But these are not mileage accruable... to earn miles I have to pay close to GBP 800 so as to buy a semi flex.
Is this a really common issue? If so, it sucks!!
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Originally posted by SQtraveller View PostIs this a really common issue? If so, it sucks!!
Yes, the difference did used to be 50 or 100 - in fact it was zero, because only about a year ago, the cheapest SQ fares ex-LHR booked into W class - but perhaps SQ rightly concluded that the very few of us who cared about mileage were willing to pay a much higher premium for them
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I think the other important point to note is that the lowest mileage accruing fare (the £800 fare) in your example books into M class, which is not eligible for upgrading.
E fares (eligible for upgrades) clock in at about £50-£100 more.
In this instance, it probably is worth checking with other TAs whether they can offer you M class tickets at a price lower than the SQ website. There have been instances where I have managed to get them at a discount (although then the issue of TA-enforced restrictions, such as £50 per date change and non-ability to choose specific seats come into question).
I think the key is, SQ has managed (whether wisely or not) to differentiate between
(A) Travellers who want cheap deals full stop;
(B) Travellers who value the added perks which come with flying the airline (such as miles, FFP, lounge access etc).
If one wants to get the best of both worlds ex-LON, maybe you should have a look at EK. They're consistently cheap in Y (and J and F too), and all their fares are mileage accruable, plus there are no effective blackouts on upgrades. Oh, they're very generous with op-ups too.
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Originally posted by kelvgoh View PostIf one wants to get the best of both worlds ex-LON, maybe you should have a look at EKLe jour de Saint Eugène, en traversant la Calle Mayor...
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Define "small amount"?
alternatively, you could also do a wait and see. I've almost always bought my tickets 2-3 weeks before I fly, just so that I know what is a "good price" to pay for tickets.
Once in a while too you get free tag-ons such as free flights to HKG which probably add that little bit of value to the fare. I used to get such offers all the time from Lees, and do a one day turnaround.
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Originally posted by kelvgoh View PostDefine "small amount"?
alternatively, you could also do a wait and see. I've almost always bought my tickets 2-3 weeks before I fly, just so that I know what is a "good price" to pay for tickets.
Once in a while too you get free tag-ons such as free flights to HKG which probably add that little bit of value to the fare. I used to get such offers all the time from Lees, and do a one day turnaround.
post deletedLast edited by SQtraveller; 20 August 2017, 03:58 AM.
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Originally posted by SQtraveller View PostThat is interesting I've never bought tickets that close to the fly date - I guess I'm scared that I might not get a ticket!!
I'm thinking of flying late August - do you recommend waiting until early August before making a booking then?
If when you want to fly is just a normal time in your part of the world I would wait, fuel surcharges have to come down eventually, maybe.
Also if I am looking to upgrade from Y to J I tend to book asap to give myself more chance of getting a saver award.
SQ238.
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Originally posted by SQ238 View PostI think it depends on what time of year it is. I would never wait that late to book my tickets if I was flying around any holiday season here in Australia, school holidays and Christmas times are extremely busy.
If when you want to fly is just a normal time in your part of the world I would wait, fuel surcharges have to come down eventually, maybe.
Also if I am looking to upgrade from Y to J I tend to book asap to give myself more chance of getting a saver award.
SQ238.Last edited by SQtraveller; 20 August 2017, 03:59 AM.
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The consumer surplus for SQ aficionados is a lot higher than your normal pax. These special fares are meant to attract pax who would otherwise fly with other carriers. Those who are interested in accruing miles with SQ are already in the bag and so they (SQ) know they've got your business. This is partly due to the fact that there is very little competition within the Star Alliance network on the LHR-SIN-OZ/NZ routes. Imagine if there was another carrier, with whom you can accrue Star Alliance miles with, on this sector; the pressure would cause prices for accruable fares to drop. You'll realise very few Star Alliance airlines do compete with each other on certain trunk routes. The same applies to One World and in certain markets like SIN, where TG is trying to gain some market share; their discount economy fares are only accruable to Royal Orchid Plus and not Krisflyer even though they are both part of Star Alliance.
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Originally posted by Airline Orgasm View PostThis is partly due to the fact that there is very little competition within the Star Alliance network on the LHR-SIN-OZ/NZ routes.
TG, SQ, NZ, UA, AC, OZ all have their own flights
LH, LX, OS all have competitive fares with 1 or more legs on codeshares or partner airlines
Not sure about CA (I really should look them up)...
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