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Originally posted by pokfur View PostThe SV series with Spacebeds have the exact same seat count in both classes as the A330, and I suppose that makes it very easy to put it as a substitute on an A330 route. Not a good thing though as it's a downgrade in hard product. But I can't imagine them refurbishing it at this point in time?? Unless it's really with the 77W hand-me-down interior.
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Originally posted by flyinghigher View PostNo wonder... I was wondering why I saw a blank 777-300ER SQ Colours. My flight took off a few planes before this one. Is it going to be stored or scrapped?
she was flown directly from SIN
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There are some interesting notes on planespotters about SVA and SVD. SVD has also been stored at ASP. Between 04NOV16 and 12JAN17 it also made a return to SIN before being flown back to ASP. The ex-Scoot 772s have either gone to leasing corporations or moved to Roswell, so they are a different category.
It could seem that SQ is keeping SVA and SVD in potential play. If this is the case, then we aren't likely to see any current liveried 772s depart for some time yet. This strategy must surely only be possible due to low fuel prices.
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ok, this is an interesting episode to watch.
2 x old 772s mysteriously flown home from the desert,
3 x purple cabin 772s hanging around exclusively for BKK & MNL flights
2 x 772s + 2 x 773s refitted with the 77W hand-me-downs
are they really planning on extending the use of the 772s?? (i don't mind actually!)
looks like some error in terms of fleet planning from years ago. i don't think the A359 deliveries are behind schedule are they? so it's odd that there's a gap following the returning of the 333s to the lessors necessitating a life extension of the 772 fleet.
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Originally posted by ell3 View Postok, this is an interesting episode to watch.
2 x old 772s mysteriously flown home from the desert,
3 x purple cabin 772s hanging around exclusively for BKK & MNL flights
2 x 772s + 2 x 773s refitted with the 77W hand-me-downs
are they really planning on extending the use of the 772s?? (i don't mind actually!)
looks like some error in terms of fleet planning from years ago. i don't think the A359 deliveries are behind schedule are they? so it's odd that there's a gap following the returning of the 333s to the lessors necessitating a life extension of the 772 fleet.
The one big event for me, which changed my thinking about what they were up to, was the fitting of 2006 products into SVB. Up until then I thought they might have selected a handful of the 772s that were slightly younger, to form a refurbed, temporary fleet for 4 years or so, while waiting for 787s and further 359s. In that scenario, SVI-SVN might have stuck around, but SVB-SVG were off to join their peers in the desert.
They own all remaining 772s from what everyone on this forum seems to know. Nobody is offering much cash for any 772 under 10 years' age, let alone 15, so there's no real logic to keeping the oldest and usually SQ remove the oldest planes first, like in the SQ, SR and SY series. If SVA and SVD return, they will be like SVF- nothing refurbed.
Two reasons I immediately think of for this:
Cost cutting in order to stay competitive means not renewing any further A330 leases. Constant pressure to lower ticket prices means they've made these decisions purely on financial grounds.
Unforeseen fleet expansion. While I think previous administrations worked to plan for fleet renewal, arguably not so well perhaps, I don't think any thought was given to expanding the fleet. Under the previous CEO, we saw very few new destinations and hardly even extra flights. The new strategists have made new destinations a key plank in their fight with the Middle Eastern airlines, but don't have the planes to do it unless they keep old ones.
Whether this means SVA and SVD return to flying remains to be seen though. It's a very old J product to be using.
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Originally posted by SQ228 View PostTwo reasons I immediately think of for this:
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Originally posted by SQ217 View PostCould also mean some of the other aircraft are getting close to D checks, so they are going scrap those and replace them with these planes which still have a lot of hours left in them before they need D checks.
I guess it goes back to the costs- that must be where the rationale lies and they've come up with strategies like yours to squeeze every cent of value they can out of these old craft.
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