End of the nonstops to LAX & EWR on the A345

[FSJZ]

They did????

Yeap sorry here's the source: Emirates' $76 billion Boeing aircraft order a boost to US aviation industry

[reddevil0728]

Yeap sorry here's the source: Emirates' $76 billion Boeing aircraft order a boost to US aviation industry

The link is somehow broken, but anyway I some how reading it as a reference to it doesn't make sense for SIA to follow emirates lead to buy 77L just to tide over until 777X is available.

[FSJZ]

The link is somehow broken, but anyway I some how reading it as a reference to it doesn't make sense for SIA to follow emirates lead to buy 77L just to tide over until 777X is available.

Yes don't think SIA has the oil money lying around to burn on new 77L jets just for these 2 ULH routes

[MEL-World]

This thread is getting seriously off track but here goes...

Given that growth anything west of SIN is impacted by the oil revenues of the ME3 and their expansion - and I am talking all the way from India to Europe and onto the Americas, this leaves North Asia and the Pacific as two regions where SQ could investigate new routes - especially long thin routes where there is enough premium business to justify the long flight times.

That is way I see the code share with NZ and the shareholding in VA as being significant. While reintroducing the non-stop to LAX and NYC may become an option with new aircraft, certain airlines (hullo QF, and to a lesser extent NZ) have had an advantage in the southern Pacific for a long time. The ME3 airlines would really extend themselves flying further east than Asia or Sydney/Auckland - although I am sure they are looking at the area.

There is a growing market in the South Pacific. NZ has recently announced plans to fly to Argentina so joins only Qantas and Lan Chile flying the South Pacific. I think there could be significant potential there, either as a code share or an extension of their existing route to AKL.

It is not even much further in flight time going to LAX via Brisbane than via Japan or Korea although I cannot see SQ ever getting a right to trade this route given the political influence of QF in Australia. It would require an airline change in Brisbane to VA International.

And finally, I am not sure why SQ ever gave YVR away.

[FN-GM]

They did purchase 150 777Xs in 2014.

Please can you provide a source? The one you provided was for EK not SQ?

[reddevil0728]

Yes don't think SIA has the oil money lying around to burn on new 77L jets just for these 2 ULH routes

Was referring to the person you've quoted about what he was referring to.

[FSJZ]

Please can you provide a source? The one you provided was for EK not SQ?

Sorry I thought you were referring to EK, because shikhargpt was talking about Emirate's decision to consider buying 77L to bridge the gap to the 777X.

[SQ22]

Singapore Air plans to reclaim world's longest flight

The airline is in talks with Airbus Group SE and Boeing Co on developing a plane with new technology that would allow it to fly nonstop to the US profitably, Singapore Air Chief Executive Officer Goh Choon Phong said. In 2013, the carrier stopped the 19-hour trip from Singapore to New York, adding about five more hours to travel between the cities.

[Jumbojet Lover]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...longest-flight

Singapore Airlines Ltd. is impatient to restore nonstop flights to the U.S.

The airline is in talks with Airbus Group SE and Boeing Co. on developing a plane with new technology that would allow it to fly nonstop to the U.S. profitably, Singapore Air Chief Executive Officer Goh Choon Phong said.

Considering how it takes to design, test and bring new aircraft to the market, I find it odd that SIA is said to be in talks to develop a plane with new technology instead of buying what will be available soon. Does it really allude to SIA pushing Airbus to develop an ultra-long range A350, or working with Boeing to refine 777-8X specs before an order commitment (or both)?

I hope SIA finds a solution soon. I'm sure Changi is very keen for a non-stop US link again.

[Metropolitan Airlines]

Singapore Airlines eager to restart New York, Los Angeles flights

Singapore Airlines eager to restart New York, Los Angeles flights

Singapore Airlines hopes to resume direct Singapore-New York and Singapore-Los Angeles flights, but says it will need all-new ultra-long range jets from Airbus or Boeing to restart the world's longest flights.
The Singaporean flag carrier axed its daily non-stop flights to LAX and New York-adjacent Newark International Airport in 2013 due to the rising cost of fuel guzzled by its four-engine Airbus A340-500 jets.
Those jets were configured as an 'all business class' ride with just 100 seats to attract a well-heeled clientele of top executives and other wealthy individuals who placed a premium on the saving of nearly five hours compared to one-stop services.
Singapore Airlines currently flies to Los Angeles and San Francisco via Hong Kong, Seoul and Tokyo, New York via Frankfurt, and Houston with a stop in Moscow.
The airline offloaded its A340s as part of a deal to modernise its fleet with the new Airbus A350, the first of which will take wing in SQ stripe in January 2016.

However, the airline's choice of the mid-size A350-900 jets – which will fly in both three-class and two-class versions – lacks the legs to do Singapore-New York non-stop.
That route is some 9,500 miles, while the A350-900 tops out at 8,100 miles.
Even the larger and longer-range A350-1000 would fall short of the mark by just over 1,000 miles.
Boeing's next-gen 777X jetliner, which is expected to fly off the drawing board in 2019 ahead of a commercial debut in 2020, is currently the only aircraft with sufficient range for the long run, at 9,300 miles for the 777-8X version.

Singapore Airlines is now in talks with Boeing and Airbus about finding a jet that's fit for the route, reports Bloomberg, and is eager to restart what it expects to be a highly profitable route.
"We, of course, want it as soon as possible," Singapore Airline CEO Goh Choon Phong said in an interview with Bloomberg Television, but added "there isn’t really a commercially viable aircraft that could fly nonstop."
Goh has previously made it clear that he'll consider signing on the dotted line for any new aircraft which could be viable on such long routes.
Singapore Airlines has been approached for further comment.

Source: http://www.ausbt.com.au/singapore-ai...n=home-flipper

Looks like SQ is possibly talking with Airbus for A350-900R perhaps?

[jaywell]

Looks like SQ is possibly talking with Airbus for A350-900R perhaps?

More A350's will be great, but sadly I sense that a 777X order might be coming up.

EDIT: Does anyone know whether SQ will be keeping these routes J-only or will they go to a two or three class configuration?

[shikhargpt]

A-HA! Look what popped up on WSJ yesterday!

"The plane maker is considering an A350 version that could seat more than the 366-passengers now specified for the largest version. The concept involves improvements to the jet’s wing and engines and could extend its range beyond 7,900 nautical miles plane, an aircraft buyer said.

Kiran Rao, head of strategy at Airbus’s jetliner unit said, “We are in discussion with customers” and that the A350 would continue to evolve."

Looks like this is all serious, and SQ is driving it. Instead of an A350-900R, they want an A350-1100.

[SQ22]

... Which is all good news for travellers like us. I can't wait to step on board SQ22 (if they retain the flight number) again.

[Kyo]

BRING IT ON!!! Super sweet...

[CarbonMan]

They shouldn't limit it to just 5 planes again - and to convince Airbus to come up with a new plane, they can't. Looking forward to additions to YVR/SEA, SFO, IAH ... GRU!? And they can get away with F, J and maybe just PY on these flights.