Out and about in Shanghai

[KeithMEL]

Mmm, would agree about the lack of courtesy in SHA - all the pushing and shoving. And don't even get me started on the traffic... I did discover that cars will magically stop when you walk on to the roads even when the red man is on. No one pays attention to the rules here. And they get fined RMB200 if they honk.

Haven't yet come across filthy toilets - then again I hadn't ventured into many toilets beyond the Bund...

I'd heard a lot about the spitting before I arrived, but it's not so bad nowadays. I was turned off by this cashier at a dumpling resto who maintained a plastic bag at her desk to spit into though... left for another resto immediately.

On the whole it's still a very trendy city, with cutting edge restos, bars and clubs. I wish the bars/clubs were located closer to one another though, ala Lan Kwai Fong. Searching for a particular bar while not entirely sober is a chore.

Shopping in HKG is still better due to the Chinese luxury tax.

[9V-JKL]

I see I'm not the only one who doesn't like SHA. I find that its way way too crowded for my liking.
Of course, I'll never forget when I had to 'kick' someone out of my cab when the mrs and I got into the back seat and a guy just opened the front door at the same time and claimed he got on before we did. I'm not going to repeat what I said to him here

[taipeiflyer]

Ewww about the spitting -- one of my favorite reasons not to like a city.

I haven't had the opportunity to own a pair of John Lobb, though.

i also think that spitting is one of the most repulsive acts. as for the john lobbs- i love em, but if i had my way, i would wear chuck taylors every day =)

[KeithMEL]

i also think that spitting is one of the most repulsive acts. as for the john lobbs- i love em, but if i had my way, i would wear chuck taylors every day =)

I have weird feet and it's hard to find shoes that don't hurt my feet. I was given a pair of john lobbs for chrissie some years back but i couldn't wear it because it hurt too much. We dress casually around my office so no problems there and I can wear my super comfy Merrells, but I don a pair of Kenneth Cole loafers to official functions - they aren't exactly comfy, just that they hurt me least.

[shun821]

eh.. i went shanghai in 2004 and i will say that the people there lacks for basic manners. Some are rather rude, not even a "excuse me" can be heard anywhere around.. hotel was still fine but food to me was pretty bad =X oh yeah, worst of all you can see guys spliting into empty bowls almost in every restaurant! and that seriously disgusted me.
Singapore is just a lot more better although stuffs are so much cheaper in china.