What Cars Do You Drive?

[9V-SIA]

BMW 335 coupe

[up and away]

That's not what I'd call a bargain price but also not as bad as I would have thought!

[Lobster]

The Fisker is reported to be going on sale for $80,000

[Savage25]

These two look fantastic indeed. But I find it somewhat curious that I didn't find a pricetag on either site

2009MY Tesla Roadster base price: $109,000

[up and away]

These two look fantastic indeed. But I find it somewhat curious that I didn't find a pricetag on either site

[Savage25]

Yes but they do not have to be

http://www.fiskerautomotive.com/

It is supposed to go sale in late 2009

I saw that at the Detroit Auto Show earlier this year. Looks awesome!

There's also the Tesla Roadster at http://www.teslamotors.com/

[Lobster]

And to add to that, those fuel saving models are just downright ugly IMHO.

Yes but they do not have to be

http://www.fiskerautomotive.com/

It is supposed to go sale in late 2009

[up and away]

And to add to that, those fuel saving models are just downright ugly IMHO.

That isn't depending on the eco models- I believe that you could design good looking fuel saving models. But you'd probably have to construct an engine that 'd accelerate you from 0 to 30 within an houer or so

[zander]

What the politicians forget though is that although many car companies like VW or GM/Opel have been selling fuel saving models for years people just don't buy them because they are too underpowered, too small and too expensive. I mean, c'mon, you don't spend 25 000€ for the base model of the Prius if you could get the base model of the BMW 318i for just 27000€

And to add to that, those fuel saving models are just downright ugly IMHO.

[up and away]

It's "Blue Motion", which is the fuel efficient/environmentally friendly versions of VW passenger car ranges - tweaked engines, small bodywork changes for aerodynamics......

Personally, they can keep them. Who on earth would seriously consider a 1.4 or 1.6 engined Passat as acceptable? I struggle with a 1.9 turbo diesel.....

I know, even the Golf+ can be annoying with the 1.4 engine. But the lawmakers in Brussels and Berlin think that the car companies are the absolute masters of evil and that they want to sell extra-polluting cars to the zombie-like, dumbed-down public and so every car company is scrambling to come up with some fuel efficient cars.
What the politicians forget though is that although many car companies like VW or GM/Opel have been selling fuel saving models for years people just don't buy them because they are too underpowered, too small and too expensive. I mean, c'mon, you don't spend 25 000€ for the base model of the Prius if you could get the base model of the BMW 318i for just 27000€

[Javaman]

heh, what is a "Golf Blue"? Actually all together what is this "Blue" lineup?

It's "Blue Motion", which is the fuel efficient/environmentally friendly versions of VW passenger car ranges - tweaked engines, small bodywork changes for aerodynamics......

Personally, they can keep them. Who on earth would seriously consider a 1.4 or 1.6 engined Passat as acceptable? I struggle with a 1.9 turbo diesel.....

[hofo_mofo]

You should hear the car I usually drive- as soon as it gets below 5°C the battery struggles and the clutch is unpredictable for the first 20-30 minutes of driving


I also heard that the VW Blue Range had quite a good fuel economy (appearently some German camera team brought a Golf Blue motion from Munich to Venice on 60 liters of Diesel (that's about 1000 km and of course the alps ain't that good for fuel saving).

heh, what is a "Golf Blue"? Actually all together what is this "Blue" lineup?

[Lobster]

V6 4Motion means "I drink petrol like it's going out of fashion!"

Lovely car,...I'm very attached to my Golfs (have had over 5 of them ),...the V6 4Motion used to be top of the range before the R32 came in,...4 wheel drive, 2.8 litre V6, lots of nice extras,....sadly sits on the drive most of the time now because the price of fuel is so high. Actually, not too expensive to run for us because we cycle 70-100 miles per week commuting, so only used for weekend fun drives!

I used to have the V6 Audi A3 (which is basically the same car) and I loved it but you could see the petrol need visually going down if you put the pedal to the metal.

[nickbot]

What's a V6 4Motion? Sounds rather fancy.

V6 4Motion means "I drink petrol like it's going out of fashion!"

Lovely car,...I'm very attached to my Golfs (have had over 5 of them ),...the V6 4Motion used to be top of the range before the R32 came in,...4 wheel drive, 2.8 litre V6, lots of nice extras,....sadly sits on the drive most of the time now because the price of fuel is so high. Actually, not too expensive to run for us because we cycle 70-100 miles per week commuting, so only used for weekend fun drives!

[fumitani]

4Motion means 4 wheel drive

I have no car anymore....in PEK no need for a car.

Maybe I'll buy one when I go back home next week